tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8437750058361105497.post7545763215221254187..comments2023-08-26T11:45:53.143-03:00Comments on Rachel's Rantings in Rio de Janeiro: Separate and Still NOT EqualRachelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13209527132116902328noreply@blogger.comBlogger41125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8437750058361105497.post-86094326374057817952011-08-09T16:18:12.814-03:002011-08-09T16:18:12.814-03:00That's a great point, Rachel. Do Brazilians te...That's a great point, Rachel. Do Brazilians tend to avoid using public restrooms because strangers have used the same toilet? I don't think so, based on my experience. I can't remember if bathrooms there have disposable seat coveres or not. <br /><br />TracyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8437750058361105497.post-47573447078567468702011-08-09T07:16:33.541-03:002011-08-09T07:16:33.541-03:00What does sharing a toilet have to do wanting some...What does sharing a toilet have to do wanting someone to use my panties or toothbrush? Red haring statement much.<br /><br />My apartment has two bathrooms. There is a more social one so it isn't a big deal. And you risk more hygeinically by allowing someone to cook your food. Do you make sure your maid washes her hands after using her tiny bathroom? I mean, if it is about hygiene. Btw, Rachelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13209527132116902328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8437750058361105497.post-40341296460148747772011-08-08T22:54:30.423-03:002011-08-08T22:54:30.423-03:00This is a case of hygiene and class clash.
Everyo...This is a case of hygiene and class clash. <br />Everyone knows how freakish brasilians can be with cleaniness, but that doesn't mean we take care of our overall health situation. Cleaning it up does not cure diseases. <br />Lower classes tend to not treat their illness as much, either for not knowing how to, not having money or lack a usefull health system. Having said that, personal hygieneAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8437750058361105497.post-67789814664234732962011-07-27T17:38:40.394-03:002011-07-27T17:38:40.394-03:00We kept our maid's room for storage as well. I...We kept our maid's room for storage as well. It's actually a really good size because our building is a little bit older. I hate the new buildings with their tiny rooms...Rachelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13209527132116902328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8437750058361105497.post-10222279190174870952011-07-27T17:34:52.441-03:002011-07-27T17:34:52.441-03:00My folks lived in Copacabana and had to remodel th...My folks lived in Copacabana and had to remodel their apartment which hadn't been updated since the 40s. They left in the maid's bathroom and bedroom although they used the maid's room for storage. They redid the bathroom so that it was nicer, it had an enclosed shower which made it nicer. They didn't tear it out because of resale concerns. <br /><br />A trend I saw when I was in Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8437750058361105497.post-29320443371320440392011-07-21T00:35:37.716-03:002011-07-21T00:35:37.716-03:00Anon,
You sound like a you have a lot of bott...Anon,<br /><br /> You sound like a you have a lot of bottled up anger against Brazilians, or white Brazilians I should say.<br /> I can asure you, the issue in Brazil is much more a CLASS division and less of a racial divide.<br /> I grew up in a middle/upper class neighborhood of Sao Paulo. We had neighbors that were Black and upper class, potiticians, lawyers, judges and they were American Heart Brazilian Soulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11049937328816904295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8437750058361105497.post-41131016320704780962011-07-20T23:10:06.403-03:002011-07-20T23:10:06.403-03:00@ Anonymous 6:51pm
Yes, Blacks are the majority o...@ Anonymous 6:51pm<br /><br />Yes, Blacks are the majority of the poor population and we need strong policies to address this disparity.<br /><br />No, interracial marriages isn't a taboo it was never against the law and it was never frown upon (As it was in any country of English descent)... It would raise a few eyebrows if a Upper Class dated a lower class - Class is still much alive and Marciohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11558364887406925384noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8437750058361105497.post-9476401407325371992011-07-20T23:08:05.017-03:002011-07-20T23:08:05.017-03:00This comment has been removed by the author.Marciohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11558364887406925384noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8437750058361105497.post-67854079448791696742011-07-20T19:28:06.255-03:002011-07-20T19:28:06.255-03:00It's so true. 4 years ago when we were in the...It's so true. 4 years ago when we were in the market to buy an apartment we found a really great one, the perfect balance of older charm and modernity...but they expanded the kitchen and took out the maids room, just the left the bathroom, my husband said, "what, are we going to hang the clothes in the kitchen to dry" and he did have a point, but I rebutted that we should just forkStephaniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16157534345604450915noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8437750058361105497.post-37421622388682130432011-07-20T18:51:14.474-03:002011-07-20T18:51:14.474-03:00Let me see if I understood correctly: economically...Let me see if I understood correctly: economically blacks are 6.84% but represent 70% of the poor population and Brazilians say this is not a racist country! The mixing occurred between the Portuguese, natives and blacks along time ago…Reality is there are not many interracial marriages among middle and upper class. Have a middle class kid show up with a black boyfriend/girlfriend to see what Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8437750058361105497.post-54331050048631796582011-07-20T18:39:20.965-03:002011-07-20T18:39:20.965-03:00Our tiny apartment has a separate bathroom for the...Our tiny apartment has a separate bathroom for the empregada. We use it as the bathroom you use when you are bursting and someone is in the other(main) bathroom. But to suggest it is somehow a convenient place for the amid to shower or change her clothes -- give me a break. It is TINY (opposite of large CAPS).<br /><br />It is definitely a relic of a time when the maid had NO status.<br /><br />IJimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14003236423048071844noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8437750058361105497.post-86932979838495387872011-07-20T16:57:02.389-03:002011-07-20T16:57:02.389-03:00Hi Rachel, congratulation on a great blog
I guess...Hi Rachel, congratulation on a great blog<br /><br />I guess for an American the greatest cultural shock is the that middle class maid thing...<br /><br />I really don't think it's a situation based on race (not all maids are black, I doubt the majority are if you count the whole country), therefore don't think it's racism. It is just some relic of a time that the middle class Marciohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11558364887406925384noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8437750058361105497.post-81311187311748195902011-07-20T16:31:23.495-03:002011-07-20T16:31:23.495-03:00Hmmm, it seems like if the building area in the ki...Hmmm, it seems like if the building area in the kitchen is modern for the needs then you did the logical thing by taking out the bathroom. Even though people are complaining hopefully the people who scope out the apartment and end up buying it will be forced to become more open minded. So maybe your lack of bathroom will transform the world. <br /><br />If I asked my cleaning woman to use Ninahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15346687833675750566noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8437750058361105497.post-53838128400737286392011-07-20T13:37:18.891-03:002011-07-20T13:37:18.891-03:00Subtle or violent, Brazilians have always been in ...Subtle or violent, Brazilians have always been in denial when it comes to their racism.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8437750058361105497.post-73230927493144175072011-07-20T11:25:39.061-03:002011-07-20T11:25:39.061-03:00Brazilian racism is alive and well...
Sad.Brazilian racism is alive and well...<br />Sad.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8437750058361105497.post-22140389483355602492011-07-19T22:50:08.679-03:002011-07-19T22:50:08.679-03:00An elite that never cared about its own people, no...An elite that never cared about its own people, now wants to say it is a benefit for their maid to have their own separate quarters. What a hypocrisy?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8437750058361105497.post-16513593458428046792011-07-19T22:14:55.409-03:002011-07-19T22:14:55.409-03:00We joined our "cuarto de empleada" with ...We joined our "cuarto de empleada" with a small study behind it and turned it into a mini-apartment to rent out (we're lucky enough to live in a pretty big house). <br /><br />My maid only comes 3 days a week, and she showers and changes in my bathroom, which is fine with me.<br /><br />I was stunned when one of my English students lectured me on letting my maid sit and eat with my Kellyhttp://mylifeinperu.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8437750058361105497.post-5966204746633525302011-07-19T21:37:54.255-03:002011-07-19T21:37:54.255-03:00I'm sure I'll find someone soon enough. Th...I'm sure I'll find someone soon enough. The thing that gets me is that the vast majority of them don't have live in maids. The closest is a maid there from Monday to Friday. Only a few have mentioned live ins. It's becoming a lot rarer here. Maids want their own lives and more power to them.Rachelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13209527132116902328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8437750058361105497.post-74739074545349569552011-07-19T21:36:30.859-03:002011-07-19T21:36:30.859-03:00Rachel ,
I think most buyers want the maid's ...Rachel , <br />I think most buyers want the maid's bathroom but people have different needs so I am sure you will find a buyer who doesn't have a live-in maid and will appreciate the extra space in the kitchen.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8437750058361105497.post-84856997551721551082011-07-19T21:09:08.818-03:002011-07-19T21:09:08.818-03:00In an ideal world, yes. But in a small apartment a...In an ideal world, yes. But in a small apartment all space is a luxury.Rachelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13209527132116902328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8437750058361105497.post-78670683773853069712011-07-19T20:59:38.229-03:002011-07-19T20:59:38.229-03:00I think the maid should have a bathroom for conve...I think the maid should have a bathroom for convenience and privacy for the maid and also for the family.<br /><br />I don't think she is a member of the family but she should be treated with respect and be paid well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8437750058361105497.post-4788804841995706832011-07-19T20:31:55.091-03:002011-07-19T20:31:55.091-03:00Rachel,
Definitely read "The Help", I a...Rachel,<br /><br />Definitely read "The Help", I also saw many paralels with Brazil. I also remember reading the black feminist sociologist Patricia Collins in grad school while on a trip to Brazil. To research race relations she took a job as a maid in the South and commented on the invisibility she experienced. At one point she just took out her notebook and started writing Corinnenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8437750058361105497.post-28956638626322728032011-07-19T19:19:41.180-03:002011-07-19T19:19:41.180-03:00Sure, that's a good point. Sadly, I doubt it&#...Sure, that's a good point. Sadly, I doubt it's the situation 90% of the time.Rachelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13209527132116902328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8437750058361105497.post-49693670144147670502011-07-19T18:40:40.806-03:002011-07-19T18:40:40.806-03:00I know my people who do need a maid's bathroom...I know my people who do need a maid's bathroom...<br />if your apartment has 3 en suites bedrooms (which the bathroom inside) and a half bathroom ....where is she going to take a shower?? in this case its better to have a separate area for her...<br /> <br />If she is live-in and its her time off , the maid doesn't want to go all the way to the kids bathroom to shower or use the toilet<brAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8437750058361105497.post-51496521612352782392011-07-19T18:15:05.883-03:002011-07-19T18:15:05.883-03:00At least the minorities here have more protection ...At least the minorities here have more protection and access to become mainstream than Brazil. Look at our TV programs and they are more diverse than any of Brazilian soap operas or programs. The difference is that we are developed and Brazi is still a banana republic!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com