Slut Walk is coming to Rio de Janeiro July 2nd!! It should be an interesting one. Cariocas are not afraid of showing a little skin.
The slut walk started in Canada in April and has since come to 20 other cities. People are stepping out and saying that I don't give a F*CK what I was wearing, NO MEANS NO!
Everything started in response to comments made by Constable Michael Sanguinetti, a Toronto Police officer, who suggested that in order not to be victimized, "women should avoid dressing like sluts.
And they say that one person can't change the world. Look at this guy! He was an utter ass and created a world movement that says "Screw that!"
This is something everyone should support and if you can it goes from 2:00pm - 8:30pm on July 2nd and starts at POSTO 4 in Copacabana (Av. Atlântica).
For more info (in Portuguese) check out the Slut Walk Rio facebook event page: https://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=215022141851856
so the guy made a "she must have asked for it" judgement call...jerk.
ReplyDeletePerhaps the guy just meant that in dressing a certain way the chance of being sexually assaulted increases. In this case I detect a wee bit much of feminism over poor word choice from the usually analitical Canadians.
ReplyDeleteThe question though is if his statement is accurate since I have also read that sexual assault is really more about exerting power over another person that actual lust.
Yeah, rape really isn't about what you are wearing. And I'm so sick of us teaching girls: Don't get raped. When really we should be teaching boys: DON'T RAPE. (That's not anti-boy, it's merely an acknowledgement that men are more likely to be rapists).
ReplyDeleteDon't rape is something that really should be taught! I actually had a guy say that I asked for it. Nothing did end up happening because our friends walked up. Yeah, I knew the guy. Sad huh.
ReplyDeleteTrue Gritty, it normally is more about power. But there does seem to be a societal acceptance or understanding when it happens to girls that were dressed a certain way...
It's always uplifting when I see people demonstrate--I'm happy to see this happening. Unfortunately, victim-blaming is still highly prevalent and whenever there's progress with equal rights, there's usually a two-steps back swing that happens shortly after. But, I'm always hopeful that rationality will prevail!
ReplyDeleteGritty Poet, based on your comment I'm inclined to think that you see feminists as that angry, man-hating stereotype, but feminism benefits both genders. Have you ever seen Gloria Steinem in an interview? Always calm, intelligent and thoughtful. I hate to play this card, but if a woman you knew--a sister, a daughter, an aunt or mother were personally affected by this issue, you might not dismiss this as an innocuous comment that was 'misconstrued' by feminists.
By the way, men can be feminists, too (and plenty of crazy, right-wing women can be anti-feminist).
Meilina I have nothing against women's lib. Sometimes though the occurences they make a big deal about just seem silly. Remember all the fuss this generated?
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NkY2rFidJs
It is a bit much sometimes don't you think?
By the way there seems to be plenty of right wing feminists and many of the are also hot: feminist and feminine ( S.E. Cupp comes to mind).
http://lukeford.net/Images/photos/secupp8.jpg
I'm an internet junkie and I honestly don't remember that clip being a fuss at all--I actually never even saw the clip at all until just now. So, essentially, when people try to contest stereotypes about women (or creed/culture or the gay/lesbian community, etc) I don't usually see it as 'a bit much' at all. :)
ReplyDeleteTo me 'conservative feminist' seems to be an oxymoron--and hotness does not add to their value. There is just nothing pro-woman about taking away choices (reproductive, work, etc.). Feminism does welcome a variety of points of view, but it's safe to say we don't want someone like Michele Bachmann (or her crazy slavery theory) in the club. ha!
I love Tina Fey's joke:
"Politics aside, the success of Sarah Palin and women like her is good for all women — except, of course, those who will end up paying for their own rape kit and stuff. But for everybody else, it's a win-win. Unless you're a gay woman who wants to marry your partner of 20 years. Whatever. But for most women, the success of conservative women is good for all of us. Unless you believe in evolution. You know — actually, I take it back. The whole thing's a disaster. "
But, I don't want to clutter Rachel's blog with my seriousness. :)
Slutty Sisters Unite!
"To me 'conservative feminist' seems to be an oxymoron"
ReplyDeleteWell then it seems you already have your mind made up on who gets to be in the feminist club. If you think about it though since conservatism champions self-relience over assistance one could argue that it is actually the ideal group and mindset for those who have been, for various reason, oppressed and made to depend on the "charity" of others.
But hey, why open up that can of worms, better to run on auto pilot.
As for being hot, well, just wanted to insert a nice pic into an usually unpleasant subject. Your turn now: who do you consider to be a hottie feminist? Please provide pic for analysis.
Oh come now, I don't think feminism is an unpleasant subject! Good healthy debate is good! Your point about "charity" is, yes, a whole other can of worms. I imagine you are referring to government assistance programs. Not to get off of the fun topic of sluts (Jesus Loves Sluts, by the way, and I am totally pro-sex :) but if I (or we) are paying taxes, I don't see it as charity. The government has some responsibility in taking care of its citizens. And I think many people have experienced the feeling of their tax dollars going toward things they don't like--for instance, I helped pay for a war that I did not support. But, I'm totally digressing! I'll reel it in--traditional feminists support choices (reproductive, work, equality at home for stay at home moms, education opportunities, healthy sexuality --> ties in with slutdom, no? Whereas, socially conservative women/men do not support these ideas (so the word 'feminist' has essentially been co-opted by these politicians.)
ReplyDeleteSomeone above mentioned the responsibility placed on women to NOT get raped--it's so crazy--we're told to not walk alone at night, hold our keys between our knuckles, and still told to not look a certain way. Slut-shaming still exists. There is an organization called the White Ribbon Campaign. It's an organization of men that promote the idea of men ending violence against women. I love that this exists--coincidentally, it originated in Canada.
As for a hottie feminist, well... me! haha!
Being that I am Canadian and from Toronto, I feel the need to throw in a word here after Gritty's comments about "analitical [sic] Canadians." It should be noted that Constable Sanguinetti did not make his remarks in an off-the-record forum; rather, he was speaking to a crowd of university students about safety. This was a calculated comment, and it is reasonable to assume that he is speaking from the perspective of the Toronto PD as a whole. Regardless, he certainly represents an authoritative and chauvinistic viewpoint that, sadly, is not uncommon. As Meilina commented, it's sad and when victims of assault are implicated in their own tragedies...of course there are always things you can do to make yourself a less likely target, but just because you choose to wear a short skirt at a club or walk home alone at night doesn't mean it's your fault. It just means there are a lot of assholes in this world. So yes, let's focus on creating fewer assholes rather than infusing victims of crime with shame.
ReplyDeleteSuggested reading for Meilina and SBDO.
ReplyDeletehttp://antimisandry.com/articles/
This one regarding Constable Sanguinetti's remarks.
http://antimisandry.com/discrimination-sexist-double-standards/michael-sanguinettis-idiotic-remark-wheres-outrage-men-39327.html
C'mon girls analize a different viewpoint for a change, it won't kill you and could actually be enlightening.
Gritty,
ReplyDeleteOkay, I read the second article and I think the author has some valid points. But I don't think they negate from what Meilina or I said. It doesn't matter that statistics say most rapes happen between people who know each other blah blah, because the point is that, from a societal perspective, there is still this Victorian notion of blaming the woman for her own demise.
Also, since when has "assault" only meant rape? Gritty, when's the last time you wore a skirt to the bar and had your ass grabbed? This happens to women ALL THE TIME, and it's just as inappropriate, if not as life-altering.
Like I said, 'man hating feminists' are a complete stereotype. Feminism was never about hating men. It's about equality. Which is why I said in an earlier comment that it benefits both sexes. There are women that hate men, but they are NOT feminists. They're female chauvinists. I was raised by a single father the majority of my life, so I have a lot of respect for what both men and women are capable of--as humans, our capacity to love and understand each other. I've always maintained that there are more similarities between men and women than there are differences, which is why I support *equality* (the crux of feminist beliefs)
ReplyDeleteGritty, I would encourage you to also see things from a different viewpoint than your own, as it can also be enlightening:
http://www.gloriasteinem.com/updates/
(I recommend Gloria's Sundance interview in the above link).
Best...
"The girl says, 'Wait a minute! Just because I'm dressed this way does not make me a whore!' Which is true. Gentlemen, that is true. Just because they dress a certain way doesn't mean they are a certain way. Don't ever forget it. But ladies, you must understand that is ***** CONFUSING! It just is.
ReplyDeleteNow that would be like me, Dave Chappelle the comedian, walking down the street in a cop uniform. Somebody might run up on me, saying, 'Oh, thank God. Officer, help us! Come on. They're over here. Help us!' 'OH-H0H!!! Just because I'm DRESSED this way does not make me a police officer!'
All right, ladies, fine. You are not a whore. But you are wearing a whore's uniform." - Dave Cheppelle US Comedian